Showing posts with label Guns in Church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Guns in Church. Show all posts

Tuesday, February 19

The Right to Carry in the House of God

The Right to Carry in the House of God
By: Guest Blogger 

Lots of people in this country have guns. Most of the time, people have them in their homes because they either don’t have access to security providers like www.securitysystemspecials.com or they are supplementing their current home security with the presence of a firearm.

Makes sense to a lot of people, but what about outside the home? Should you be allowed to carry a gun in the mall, at the store, or even in church?

Some people will argue that, as long as you qualify, you have all the freedom in the world to exercise your second amendment rights. Others will argue against it and question why you would ever want to bring such a deadly weapon into the church.

Both are valid views but, in the end, the question still remains. To answer the question, we must explore the issue in greater detail by looking at where both camps are coming from in the argument.

The Sandy Hook tragedy came less than six months after another tragic and senseless act of violence in Aurora, Colorado. Both incidents had three things in common. They both involved individuals with questionable mental states, both involved high-powered guns and both happened in unexpected places where large groups of people gather.

Ever since this string of gun-related attacks, we have been impacted in various ways. Children are afraid to go to school, parents of victims cry out for change and some people avoid gatherings altogether, now, fearing that a job, university campus, restaurant or, yes, even church could be the next news headline.

All the while our nation divides itself between those that are for stricter gun regulation and those that are not.

Those that argue for strict gun regulation want many things including the ban of sales of high-capacity magazines, no sales on military-grade assault rifles and more in-depth background checks. They believe that by removing the gun from the equation, you ultimately remove the problem of murder and violence on such a large scale.

Those that are against strict gun regulation believe that the individuals are to blame since guns, while deadly, are, as objects, inert until placed in the hands of those who would do harm. They believe that removing a law-abiding citizen’s ability to purchase military-grade weaponry effectively prevents them from defending themselves against the “real bad guys.”

So what do these tragedies, their impacts on our lives and the spawning of these two vastly opposed views mean for the church-goer who wants to carry?

It means that you or anyone else planning to exercise your second amendment rights in the House of God need to be aware of a couple of things. First and foremost, if you have the right and your state allows you to carry a concealed firearm and you are licensed, then technically you are not doing anything illegal. That, however, does not mean you go around showing your friends or making a scene about it.

You should also seriously evaluate your reasons for carrying in church. Some people might want to do it because they fear their gathering could be the next victim. After all, who could have imagined someone would open fire on a bunch of students or a group of moviegoers? You might think that it’s a precautionary measure to protect yourself from any “gun-wielding madmen” that decide to pay your congregation a visit.

It’s not outside the realm of possibility but it’s important to remember that while a gun could help you defend yourself, it could also escalate the violence and the tragedy. In the end, it’s really up to the individual and the laws that govern the state where he or she worships.

And just remember that while a gun on its own is inert, that changes the minute ANYONE picks it up. Even if you’re a law-abiding citizen, bringing a gun to church for defensive reasons or otherwise instantly raises the risk of incident.

Sunday, February 10

Texas Church to Host Concealed Handgun Training Class

From: Fox News

A Baptist church in the Texas Panhandle plans to host concealed handgun training, saying it's offering the class as a community service because there is so much interest in the area.

People wanting to get a concealed handgun license in Texas must take the class. The Rev. Brad Foster of Calvary Baptist Church in Dumas told the Amarillo Globe-News for a story in Saturday's editions that a state-certified instructor will teach the first 10-hour class in the fellowship hall March 2. It covers how to safely handle firearms.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/10/texas-church-to-host-concealed-handgun-training-class/#ixzz2KXkBGlXt

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Should Guns Be Allowed In Church?

From: Baptist Press

As gun control takes high priority on Capitol Hill, state legislatures increasingly are allowing concealed guns in our most sacred place, the church, either for personal protection or for worshippers designated as church security personnel.

Arkansas, on Feb. 4, became the eighth state to pass legislation allowing concealed guns specifically in churches. In a lopsided bipartisan vote, state legislators voted to allow each church to decide whether individuals with concealed carry permits could take guns in church for personal protection.

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Saturday, February 2

Guns in Church Sanctuary - Handgun Courses - Columbus

From: Columbus Dispatch

Gun Classes in the sanctuary? Some churches say 'Amen!'

When members of his church use the sanctuary to teach concealed-carry handgun courses, Marengo Christian Church preacher Jeff Copley often stops by.

His advice: “When you put that gun on in the morning, the first thing you do is pray you will not have to use it.”

The Morrow County church of 40 to 50 members has been a concealed-carry training site since at least 2004. Church members who have been certified as instructors by the National Rifle Association teach three or four sessions a year.

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Tuesday, January 29

Arkansas Senate Passes Church Guns Rights Bill -

From: USA Today

The Church Protection Act

The Arkansas Senate has passed a bill lifting a ban on carrying concealed weapon in church.

The proposal, which goes to the Arkansas House for consideration, would allow churches to decide which, if any, worshippers with concealed carry permits can bring their firearms inside.

The measure passed 28-4 on Monday, KATV reported.

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Saturday, January 26

When Guns Stopped a Rampage - ePanic Button

Security at Church: This is an excellent article from Johnny Lee the President of ePanic Button. The mainstream media has been overflowing with reports of why guns are bad. Johnny does a great job sharing the other side of the story!



When Guns Stopped a Rampage
By: Johnny Lee

In the wake of the tragedy at the Newton, CT school shooting, there has been a call for more gun control laws to prevent similar events. The logic is if a person intent on mass violence were unable to obtain a firearm, violence and shootings can be prevented. Citizens and law makers want to restrict who can obtain a firearm, specifically people with mental health issues. A fine point involves types of firearms and accessories such as large capacity magazines. Even the generic term “assault weapon” has conflicting definitions for those familiar with firearms. Regardless of the weapon’s appearance, all semi-automatic firearms have been identified by some as too dangerous for the general public.

But the heart of the gun control argument is there are too many guns, and adherents point to the growing number of reports that provide timelines, graphs and catalogs of workplace and school shootings. Opponents of gun control measures state that readily available firearms can actually stop these events, but lack a similar collection of accounts when armed citizens ended rampages. This following short list does not include cases of armed citizens stopping robberies, which kill many more people than mass shootings.


December 2012, Clackamas, OR – Clackamas Town Center Mall
As the Mall shooting in Oregon is still a current news topic, one story that has not garnered much attention is why the shooter, identified as Jacob Roberts, ended the rampage to take his own life. Nick Meli had a concealed carry permit and was one of the shoppers when the shooting began. Meli confronted Roberts with his sidearm but did not fire because a bystander could have been hit. Roberts might have killed himself when he realized he faced an armed individual. While impossible to ever determine definitively, the assailant may have feared being wounded and did not want to survive to face court and public outrage (video of interview).

August 2012, San Antonio, TX – Bonham Academy
While focus is on school safety, there is also the case of a woman who had just dropped off her child at school when her ex-partner, who had a history of abuse, confronted her and began arguing. She had just filed for divorce the week before, and as common in abusive relationships, he was not going to let her leave him. His anger escalated to the point where he began stabbing her. An armed citizen with a concealed carry permit drew his gun and stopped the assailant.


January 2009, Houston, TX – Texas Components Corp
Julie Parker entered the technology company where her father worked carrying a bow and what appeared to be a handgun. She shot one worker in the chest with an arrow and then pointed the fake firearm at other workers. Two employees were armed and returned fire, striking her and forcing her to retreat to a restroom. She aimed her bow at arriving police officers, causing them to shoot her again. Parker survived to face charges for the assault.

December 2007, Colorado Springs, CO - New Life ChurchMatthew Murray killed two people at a missionary center before traveling 80 miles to his second target, an affiliated church. Police described him as being armed with an assault rifle and two handguns with as many as 1,000 rounds of ammunition. He killed two teenage sisters and wounded their father in the church parking lot before entering the church building. Jeanne Assam, a volunteer guard and parishioner, fired her own weapon at Murray, ending the rampage by killing him.

July 2006, Memphis, TN – Schnucks Grocery StoreAn employee, upset over a workplace dispute, grabbed a knife and wounded eight co-workers. As he chased one employee out into the parking lot, the manager of a neighboring business in the same shopping center intervened. According to an interview with the manager, “When he turned around and saw my pistol, he threw the knife away, put his hands up and got on the ground. He saw my gun and that was pretty much it.”

May 2008, Winnemucca, NV – Players Bar and Grill
A man entered a crowded bar looking for members of a family with whom he held a grudge. Ernesto Villagomez found and killed two young men before another patron pulled out his firearm to shoot and kill Villagomez. Although the intervening patron was initially apprehended, he was released after Humboldt County District Attorney Russell Smith determined the shooting was justifiable homicide.

August 2005, Albuquerque, NM – Walmart
Again we have a customer, not an employee, intervening to save a victim as seen in this video. A female employee was working behind the counter when her ex-partner approached her with a knife and began stabbing her numerous times. A co-worker tried to intervene, but a customer rescued her. The 72-year-old customer had a concealed carry permit and a 9 mm handgun that he used to kill the assailant. The victim survived the assault.

Whether a firearm is the cause or cure for senseless violence, real prevention is based on establishing communities and relations that limit grievances and frustrations assailants perceive and experience. If a threat has been identified, it needs to be reported and the appropriate interventions put into place. The concern on the actual crisis may be short-sighted if it is the only focus.

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Gun Laws - Church - Gun Policy - Church Security

Since the tragic shooting in Newtown, CT gun policy has been on the top of the agenda for both Washington and local state legislators. Based on the political makeup of your state new legislation has been introduced to support gun rights, as well as, to restrict the constitutional rights of gun owners. Below are highlights from a few states that had pending legislation that could apply o places of worship.

From: The New Republic

Georgia
Charles Gregory, a freshman state representative that the Atlantic dubbed “one of the most zealously pro-gun legislators in America,” introduced four bills that would largely obliterate any restrictions on carrying firearms in Georgia. The bills would declare that “evil resides in the heart of the individual, not in material objects” and would allow people to carry guns pretty much anywhere, including college campuses and churches. It would also prohibit the governor from suspending guns sales during an emergency. Gregory represents a district that includes Kennesaw, the only place in America where it is required for households to own at least one gun.


Virginia
A bill proposed by Del. Bob Marshall would require school districts to designate at least one qualified person to carry a concealed weapon on school grounds. Gov. Bob McDonnell has said there should be a discussion on whether people with concealed-carry permits should be allowed to carry firearms in schools, but he has not gone as far as saying it should be required. Meanwhile, two Northern Virginia lawmakers have introduced legislation that would close the state’s gun-show loophole, which allows unlicensed arm dealers to sell at gun shows without conducting background checks.

Security at Church: How will this apply to your facility if it runs a school? It will be important to see how this will apply to you if you are renting out a school facility to hold your church service.

Florida
Two lawmakers are pushing a bill that would allow state agencies and local governments to decide whether they want to prohibit concealed firearms inside public buildings and at some public events. Currently, a concealed-carry license allows Floridians to carry a weapon in most places in the state. The law is likely to face resistance in the GOP-controlled legislature, and some legislators are already arguing that the restrictions proposed by the bill violate the Second Amendment.

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Friday, January 25

Update: Arkansas Lawmakers Advance Guns in Church Bill

From: Insurance Journal

An Arkansas Senate panel advanced a proposal this week to allow concealed handguns in churches, but rejected an amendment to require places of worship to carry more insurance if firearms are permitted.

A House committee also endorsed a resolution encouraging government officials to not infringe on gun rights, the first among several bills aimed at loosening firearms restrictions in the newly Republican-controlled state Legislature.


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Sunday, July 29

Court upholds Georgia Ban on Guns in Church

From: The Washington Post

A federal appeals court has upheld Georgia’s ban on bringing guns into places of worship.

The Rev. Jonathan Wilkins, a Baptist pastor, and a gun-rights group had argued that church members should have the right to carry guns into worship services to protect the congregation.

But the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Friday (July 20) that a Georgia law adopted in 2010 does not violate the Thomaston congregation’s First and Second Amendment rights.

Gun-rights advocates might want a weapon for self-defense, but that is a “personal preference, motivated by a secular purpose,” the court ruled.